economically, flourish and have the american dream. so this is -- we are at a crossroads in this country when it comes to this budget. this is the conservative budget they have been working for for 25 years and they are now at this moment to go after social programs to separate the income further, to concentrate wealth at the top and right in the center of the discussion is the african-american community. we have to address it. >> reverend, you were debating a lot of these issues. a lot of good thinkerers. what bubbled up from that that can be addressed to talk about the solutions that may come to center? >> what has bubbled up is we have to be in the mix and represent in this discussion. we are opening an office of national action network in washington. we are going around the country with the naacp and urban league. we've got to make sure we are not invisible with those concerns and come with concrete programs. so at one level we are hearing