the foreign minister has defected. they are treating him well. he's providing valuable information to the british and the united states and to the rebels. at this point just by the fact he's cooperating and being treated well, more defections that will follow is adding pressure. >> you heard senator durbin talk about pressure on the regime. "the wall street journal" argued for a robust unified voice from republicans saying republicans ought to prod president obama to push for a faster resolution that ends with toppling of gadhafi and his sons from power. it represents a divided libya short of that. if there is any leader whose terrorist nature the american people understand it is gadhafi. should that be the view of the republican party to topple him? is that realistic? >> i do think gadhafi remaining in power is not an option. it's not an option.
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