we find out because of wikileaks, but apparently we don't -- forget us, our president and the pentagon don't care about that as they don't bother to try the man, they simply hold him in solitary naked because there's a third class of american prisoner, who that can be treated however the president apparently wants to treat you. that is an interesting development that was created by george bush and now propagated and perpetuated by barack obama. that to me is a very sad thing. i thank both of you for the conversation. still ahead, is your brain overrated? are most of the decisions we make really based on our emotions and our subconscious? we'll talk to david brooks about his new book "the social animal." but first, pain in the cash. getting ready for a brave new world of $5 atm fees. [ male announcer ] opportunity