>> popular, use the word popular. >> may be, but here he was in december of last year talking about his feelings on this issue of same-sex marriage where he opposed it, remember. let's listen. >> my feelings about this are constantly evolving. i struggle with this. i have friends -- i have people who work for me, who are in powerful, strong, long-lasting gay or lesbian unions. and they are extraordinary people. and this is something that means a lot to them, and they care deeply about. at this point, what i've said is that my baseline is a strong civil union that provides them the protections and the legal rights that married couples have, and i think that's the right thing to do. but i recognize from their