employee, health care plan and the public employee pension plan the problem? >> well, it is one of the problems. and we can't get into this reflexive -- almost in new jersey you're seeing volume get up to beating up state workers. in many ways they bargain for this at the bargaining table and came -- many of them putting into their pension for 10, 20, 30 years. the realty is we have to re-evaluate the system. we cannot afford it as it is right now. >> lean forward with "the last word" as lawrence o'donnell takes on compelling stories. it airs at 8:00 p.m. eastern weeknights only on msnbc, the place for politics. coming up, the nuggets don't miss carmelo. the heat can do no wrong, and the same team squabble with a happy ending. plus, blake griffin goes home and makes more than a little noise. sports is straight ahead. you're watching "first look" on msnbc. [ male announcer ] colorful, original