of government for the first nim a very long time. but he may end up staying on. or the president may ask bill daley. serious discussions and we'll see. we will know something by the end of the week i think, andrea. >> in fact, just common sense would indicate that this is not a trial balloon. that you don't disrespect someone as close to his white house as senior person politically and in the business world as william daley, bill daley, if you're not going to go ahead with it? >> it's more than just conversations. you know, it's pretty far along. >> you would not put his name out there, chuck. >> to speculate. yes. >> and -- you know when we talked, charlie, about this kind of change, yeah, the progressive/left wing of the party might not like it too much. he was with jpmorgan, before that one of the baby bells, but he is the brother and son of the