wikileaks, not just because it was a huge story this year, but that it really shown for the first time in a dramatic way a light on the whole issue of cyber security and potential cyber terror. >> yes. >> yeah, i think that going forward, the real lesson from wikileaks is going to be cyber security. the cable themselves are embarrassing and distracting. but the big lesson is if an activist group and one guy sitting in a cubicle in iraq somewhere can leak all these cables why can't foreign governments and intelligence services get in this came? some states will return to information warfare over the internet and with leaks like this. >> okay, max fisher from the atlantic.com. thanks so much for being with us. coming up, today on "dylan ratigan" wick ki leaks founder julian assange will be with dylan. live from the mansion in england where he's currently on house arrest. don't miss it. tend of an era, long
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