blew up, they had a pretty good safety record out there. until they didn't. the same thing with 8,700 tanker trips out of prince william sound, fully loaded with oil. everything went fine, until the one that didn't. the same thing can happen with extended reach drilling. and i think it certainly violates the intent, if not the letter, of the moratorium that was placed on offshore drilling in the arctic, and in the deep gulf, as well. >> as in the gulf, mms has allowed bp to write its own environmental report in alaska. certainly that part of this can be overturned, can't it? or is the whole thing because it's been handed to bp and the right to do this, is this out of governmental control at this point? >> well, what's that old adage, history, if ignored, tends to repeat itself. and unless we use the lessons of the deepwater horizon disaster, and apply them to all offshore drilling, including and particularly the liberty project