approved a wind farm. we need to ramp that up if we're going it be economically secure, nationally secure and environmentally secure. >> i just think, katrina, there are 10 billion, what is the congress trying to do here? these are democrats. $10 billion is chump change. why isn't it limitless? i mean, if we're really concerned about the environment, if we're really concerned about, you know, making sure that we could have some real protections in there, why is the congress -- why do they want to put a limit on it? all it does is give them a target they have to meet in the budget. >> as you said earlier, ed, there are too many in congress which make this seem like the best congress you can buy. there are some good people in congress. we have to get the clean money legislation through. the other thing i need to do, i suggest we make oil companies public utilities. there are places around this great country, this world where that is the case. they are to be managed and regulated and i think that should be put on the agenda and