become, you become disgusted. >> were there moments you thought you should stop but didn't? >> yeah. i tried to stop and i couldn't stop. and it was just -- it was horrific. >> a few little news nuggets from that, by the way. ari fleischer, former bush secretary, was advising him and apparently up to this point and has withdrawn. i have to say this felt like a political document dump. >> in terms of timing. you pointed out while the world was focused on health care. i said the washington world. but the sports world his main audience march madness. >> the perfect timing to put this as under the radar as you possibly could. notice that they forced him as a stand-up interviews to keep them short, keep them quick. so -- and he was very much -- it was very much a scripted response to every question. both reporters tried their best. >> not huge revelations but now he can say i've done it. >> we'll see. i bet he has to do a few more