into this. >> cokie, thank you very much. great being with you this week. >> lovely to be with you, terry. >> some people did think they would go younger. the average papacy, seven years. that would make him 83, base it on averages. but. one man who knows the new pope better than most is cardinal egan of new york. the two became cardinals at the same time. >> cardinal egan says francis is the perfect man for these times. >> this is the latin american moment. and i think it is wonderful that the catholic church has a leader who is from latin america. but a man who is very well educated in what you and i would consider european literature, european science, european theology. he speaks fine english. he speaks of course italian. he speaks spanish. he is a man of the world, but, a man from latin america. this is the moment of latin america, it seems to me. it worked out just beautifully.