result of that vladimir putin was on the world stage with equal billing with a leader of the free world and he made no concessions, he made no concessions about cyber attacks, made no concessions about political dissidents, about russian interference in ukraine or belarus. that's a political win for vladimir putin back home that he couldn't have dreamed about so it was a great a day for vladimir putin and the united states got nothing out of it. you're an intelligence guy. you're the former director of national intelligence. vladimir putin is also intelligence. he's a former kgb spy. from an intelligence standpoint, how do you view that meeting? what was putin looking to learn? >> well, you talk about things that vladimir putin gained. we talk about an economic win. we talk about a political win. he also got a strategic win. vladimir putin got something that the american people haven't gotten.

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