suggest separate competitions. >> i'm not in favor of the ban, the legislation sweeping the country to ban transgender individuals from competing in sports all together but i think we need policies. we're in an emerging environment where we have to think carefully and not rush to judgment too quickly. chris: she says she hopes policies provide that middle way. even if they don't, please, everyone, how do you respond to the criticism you're going to get. >> all you have to do is look at us as individuals and look at how far and how hard we work for providing a fair playing field for athletes, in the olympics and in the ncaa. we're trying to find a middle ground. chris: this issue may take on new prominence in the tokyo olympics next month where a transgender woman weight lifter from new zealand is hoping to compete for a gold medal. if you're looking for a gift for father's day i've got a good suggestion. pie book, countdown 1945, the