seemed to really granular. i think most of it went over people's heads. >> even if you do not get it to the granular aspects of it biden had good points how he lied and the aclu accused booker and et cetera. comes across, if you turn the volume and look at the body language, comes across as very shrill, hyper, in-your-face, we saw that in the kavanaugh hearings, see that in all of his performances overall. it's up at 11, this is spinal tap, this one note and it's too much. people don't want that. i think they want a biden that's functioning for that's what is the problem. biden halting, the kind of mini strokes type of situation. that was discomforting to watch. >> laura: panel, thank you for joining us. please stand by, we are going to check back and knew a few moments. i want to go back to detroit where fox's peter doocy live