forward. >> martha: she's making the case essentially that, look back at watergate. she says you had tapes. you had a smoking gun, something that was found. they did the actual investigating before they came to the point where they were doing the hearings. they had people in the room. they had someone who said oh, how did you know that dialogue was so specifically that? oh, because we have tapes of the white house. record everything. really? it open a whole new can of worms. that's what was missing yesterday. that's what prompts nancy pelosi i think to say whoa. >> jessica: there was an argument being made among democrats i was talking to that this is why you wanted donald mcgahn to go back. he is the linchpin to the obstruction of justice charge. there was some talk of him being subpoenaed and maybe we'll hear from him. nancy pelosi is playing a political game. i think it's smart.