before. my libertarian part know goes -- but i would like people to have experiences that are valuable and untethered to the virtual of signals of higher learning. at the expense of college degrees. if companies would value this and said you did this service, peace corps or whatnot or valued that. i would think that would be awesome. so i would -- as a military vet, he knows that it clearly helped shape them. when you see him up there, he has a sense of order, discipline, professionalism. he should push that. but you know, it's also voluntary. so libertarian, i'm okay with it. >> so you're the last out of college, jesse. what would you -- >> he didn't go to college. >> you didn't? >> no. >> last out of high school. >> i personally wouldn't do it. i would like to go to college like i did.