or 5 minutes at that time of night. it's very tight and very close, if you were in downtown salt lake, may be a bit far to walk at that time but a quick ride in the car. again, in the middle of the night, it's kind of an odd time to be doing that. >> harris: what is hatch park? is all i can hang out? what is it? >> harris: >> jason: it's somew. >> harris: is that a state park, county park? >> jason: i can't tell you who administers the park book, but is not time necessarily comment still not common to go there in the middle of the night. >> melissa: i think it would have struck this before too driver is very surprising. anybody who has been in a rideshare, to let someone out in a place like that. >> jason: maybe if you're meeting someone, someone else is there in a car. >> harris: police said there was somebody else there, another person. dagen? >> dagen: one thing i was going to add that in this day and age with smartphones and

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