the people in skid row do not have full-time jobs. they are staying in skid row they don't leave. no one is working to mcdonald's and then coming back. >> juan: it's a shock to you but there's a high percentage of people -- here's the thing, what you hear from mayor faulkner, republicann in san diego, he's willing to spend $11 million. it's a lot of money, as you said. so exactly what is it that is splitting the parties? >> kennedy: spending more money in los angeles and homelessness is growing by the thousands. >> dana: one of the attempts in san diego, the people who are short-term homeless, try to interdict early, help them and make sure they are not long-term homeless and that's a little bit different than what's happening in los angeles. next on "the five," president trump pops his patrol game against joe biden, asking why obama hasn't endorsed his