1988 or 1984 with walter mondale when he was the vice president and the extremists then got him to contort his lifetime policies so that he embraced positions that took him out of the mainstream. this abortion position is an extreme one that he is embracing. it is not authentic and it just is a sign of many of the changes to come that we are going to see as he struggles to try to get the nomination. >> pete: this could be the first of many. leo, joe biden has long been pro-choice. within that stance he has had personal choice. i don't believe our tax dollars should be used to pray for abortion. that's fairly reasonable. the reversal now is it not moving toward an extreme position and why do folks like cory booker have to make it about race? >> well, i'll tell you simply. this isn't 1984, it's 2019.