>> why did he ignore that claim? >> the president doesn't disclose details of meetings he has what takes place in our long meetings, but it's known that president obama did not make himself a fan of general flynn. >> martha: good to see you tonight, sean. >> thanks for the flashback. >> martha: i bet. you still have a little bit of ptsd from some of that experience. so talk to me a little bit about your take on mike flynn. there are two camps on mike flynn. that he was wrong or he should've never been hired in the first place. where are you? >> it's a tough question. i think it all panned out and it worked its way out. but i think mike flynn had come on board early when there weren't a ton of supporters standing by the president and he stood by the president shoulder to shoulder talking about national security helping guide the campaign and articulating a national security policy and