universal basic income. especially in a time where studies have shown that camilli families have a crisis in the month they experience a setback that may be difficult, even impossible to recover from. or a third of our city still lives in poverty. we have to have a mind to build, mind to build, and all we are asking for you is to help us work and build the city. >> this idea has gotten very popular. more popular than you may know, but it does come with a number of questions, beginning for who pays for it, exactly. and if you are getting the money every month, why would you work. isn't this just giving up on people? clinton james is the founder of collective pac. thank you for coming on. i guess that's my core feeling. first of all, i applaud the james deming attention that people are paying attention to the poor, the working poor in particular that's laudable.