they have legal rights to claim asylum here. we can't say, "absolutely not, you state in mexico." that's on us is never too. you can address this question without knowing going the natil emergency route. the president can't win that argument having been denied the cash for it. that's the difference between his emergency and those in the past. he didn't get his way with congress, which is an equal cobranch. and he decided to call it a national emergency. that's not how it works. >> melissa: let me look at what you think of a jessica. you can address it without it being a national emergency but no one has been doing that. yes, there are a million different better ways to deal with the situation come up with the american people see that neither republicans or democrats have done that. and it's so frustrating. >> jessica: if you look at the cover of "the new york post" of a coming of a bunch of illegal immigrants climbing over a wall. some of the president stands up there and he says, "wall, wall, wall," -- >> melissa: but it's not 200. >> lisa: that's the whole point of the law.