head, mccabe lied three times. i think rosenstein panicked and allowed these people who were clearly biased against president trump to occupy the vacuum and push this insane idea to trigger the 25th amendment against a sitting president who is able to perform the functions of the job. i can what you see here -- >> laura: one of them is lying. rosenstein said it never happened this. guy said it happened but he's a proven liar. it's pretty embarrassing. the idea that the acting director should be taking part in any meeting is unconscionable. but it demonstrates why this was a fraud from the beginning mccabe has been found to have lied to investigators. rosenstein has not actually denied t rosenstein has actually said i didn't actually carry out the wire tapping. he never denies he talked to mccabe about it. i cannot believe it that the highest echelons of our justice department, law enforcement