enforce that. what we created here is a sanctuary country, that's where we're headed. >> tucker: so is there any sheriffs organization, border patrol organization, law enforcement organization that supports this idea? >> i don't know of one. >> tucker: so where did this come from and what's the point of it? what would be the goal of o thi? >> the goal, and this has been tough for me to get to, this is pure identity politics. i can draw no other conclusion from this last-minute stunt. it's's insane. it's got to be driven by identity politics and i really think the ultimate goal of his open borders. >> tucker: it seems that way. thank you very much for that. so here's a question, if it's wise to cap the number of illegal immigrants our government can detain, why not cap the number of american citizens we can detain as well? over 2 million of them now in prison. univision anchor supports this plan. he joins us to explain. thanks very much for coming on.