you dropped that grenade in what looked like constructive talk. >> i was not involved in the conference itself. >> neil: understood. but wouldn't this issue be worth a potential shut down on this new issue? >> i don't want to say a shut down, period. i want to see this issue resolved and see the department of homeland security budget resolved. it needs to be -- >> neil: this came out of nowhere, right? you agreed on the broad blueprints. you got the president under $2 billion for a wall. everybody was inching toward it, this issue came up. now republicans are saying if we have a shut down because of your colleagues forced this issue, it will be on them, not on the president. what do you say? >> we have an agreement on six of the seven bills. we ought to pass the six bills. we sent the six bills to the senate. they ought to pass them -- >> neil: but you don't have an agreement on this. >> we don't. this did not come out of the blue. the chair, as i said, has been