campaign in iowa, michigan, wisconsin, in states the democrats lost. i won in minnesota, a state where the voters are similar. that's my pitch. electability. it's not forgetting the heartland. that is klobuchar's pitch. she has her own problems with the staffing questions. everybody's got a vulnerability here. >> julie: she's spoken to that. i do want to move on to another potential rival for president trump. that's former democratic congressman beto o'rourke. the president is going to be holding his very first rally of the year in el paso, texas, which happens to be near the mexico border. also happens to be the home town of o'rourke, who will also will speaking about a march celebrating immigration. nonetheless, immigration a huge running platform for republicans and, quite frankly, it's something you gotta be careful for when you're campaigning in