indictment against him that include lying to congress and the american people so that no surprise, you have to take everything that comes from him with a grain of salt, indictments are about lying about the case at hand, we have to hold him pre-second spec. shannon: something republican senator john kennedy had to say today in the news swirling around mister stone. >> i think mister stone is a total beavis. when his iq gets to 75 he ought to sell. >> reporter: charlie? >> he probably has that about right. anyone going around washington the last 20 years or so, knows right -- is an entertaining sideshow. what he says, a 5% chance some of it is true. when you read some of the testimony and indictments you