rational. unfortunately we are now in a position -- >> laura: they are not -- they won't discuss it. democrats will not discuss any movement toward the president.ha ap said it takes two to tango. the president said it's my shutdown too. he said that early on. he said that. but now he says okay, we want to try to get somewhere here. let's meet. let's figure out something together. i i'm going to operate in good faith. can you join me? the intransigence here is not on the president. if it was, he'd be sitting in the oval office saying let's get going. let's keep going. democrats want to -- >> i think it's where there might be the ability to see a crack happening. he can go bigger but right now it's just binary. if it's just wall funding, no wall funding, we're not going to get anywhere. >> laura: panel, i want to stay on the media and get youre thoughts on this issue of someone leaking information from what was supposed to be an off the record meeting, a briefing, with president trump and other members of his team, select group of network anchors. "the new york times" maggie