happened in san diego, el paso has become one of the safest cities because they have a barrier. we watched in huma, arizona, what's happened is those illegal crossings have dropped more than 90%. we know it works. we know we need it. we know we have to use technology as well. this is where the president has stood strong. he is standing strong for the american public. but, more importantly, he is the one person in the room that's trying to find compromise where the democrats will not move at all. >> sean: all right, kevin mccarthy, the house minority leader, thank you for being with us. joining us now on the phone for quick reaction is the great one, life, liberty the levin, we call him mark levin the great one is with us. you know, mark, it comes down to the arguments made by schumer and pelosi. i don't mean to be sarcastic but it looked like a "saturday night live" opening skit, but, especially considering chuck schumer particular biden support obama support for a wall in 2006 and 2013.