might be able to use. i don't think anyone thinks it's a big amount, not $35 million. it could end up being tested. i think another interesting thing to think about it, this is unusual and new situation for nancy pelosi, too. cheeseman speaker of the house before but she was speaker of the house for four years between 2,007 on '11 have the majority in the senate, for the last two years when they had a g majority in the senate. in 2011 when republicans took over the house, the new house g.o.p. passed a lot of stuff that went nowhere and the democratic senator with a democratic white house. i think we could be in for quite a long standoff. >> bret: karen? >> i do think the emergency powers that he is talking about do need to be defined a little more clearly. the constitution certainly does get the president emergency powers but if you take that too far, you may be actually hitting