base and that's who i'll copy and go out and try to win in iowa and new hampshire and ultimately texas and california come early. so that's why i think beto o'rourke and camilla harris have a huge advantage even though they are not known nationally at this point. >> heather: if democrats go that direction what does it mean for republicans? >> republicans, we may see a primary. kasich is out there lining up support. that's the split between the new trump populist republican and kasich more moderate and of the elite that finds trump distasteful. my prediction there is trump will completely crush that. 80 to 90% of the republican base wants to see him succeed even if they don't like every tweet he has, they want the president to succeed. and basically groups like ours that are more issue-oriented like the fact that the economy is doing well. he has cut taxes and reduced regulations.