and, you have a lot of people saying what ey will never do. rule number one in politics, never say what you will never do. that is at least what john brainard taught me. it has proven to be true. going forward, the reason you need more than just a ball in discussion, as long as there is some people that have enough power to prevent something from happening, the only thing that gets them to allow you to do something is to give them something they want. they are been the problem for at least the six years i have in congress. we have gotten to a point where, now, if i want three out of the four things that are before us, but i don't want the fourth thing, it seems like i'm willing to -- and i'm not speaking for me personally, and congress, we are willing to give out the three things that we want. you have got to stop looking for losers and situations. >> trish: this is why people get so tired of it, right? because, there is a whole lot of posturing coming here. and, what is sacrificed as the