>> the president is telling the truth. this man is line. is at a big surprise you. the man i got up in front of the judge and said i was fiercely loyal to donald trump. nonsense. he taped them. >> he stated emphatically that the information that i gave to them was credible unhelpful this is a substantial amount of information that they possess that cooperates the fact that i'm telling the truth. they deny having knowledge of the payments. even if he did know about them. it does not constitute a crime. he is patient pointing to a case with john edwards. edwards was indicted for violating campaign finance laws. they ruled on the edward edward case before they prosecuted him. they ruled that it's no violation of the campaign finance loss.