payments that are clearly not campaign related under the definitions that have been ruled by the sec and try to turn those into crimes that you associate the president with. it's the whole creep of the special counsel to get the president all over again. >> sean: seems that gregg jarrett explained it well in terms of the law. i watched the hysteria on tv. they're saying campaign finance violations. i have campaign violations from 96 over here, 2008 over here, bob dole over here, al gore over here. the biggest fine paid by obama. my question to you, as you look at where this has now gone, i mean, i feel bad for the men involved in the things that happened, but i feel they're victims of what is selective prosecution and a political witch hunt that they got caught up in by no other reason that they like donald trump. >> this is why we're nervous when there's more regulations and laws. we wake up as americans and