middle america saw an donald trump, finally, a populist hero that talked about trade and immigration, a way that no one had for a long time. >> laura: scott, mazie hirono's comment just really -- i found it interesting on a number of levels. i don't think she realized -- she was speaking truth to power in a way, because a lot of us have been watching this slow moving train wreck against blue-collar america, both from democrats and republicans who missed the boat on china, missed the boat and immigration, they missed the boat on after, and mazie hirono said, we are just too smart. we can't really connect with the hearts of america. >> no, that's actually not what she said, laura. she said it's a struggle to make things digestible. >> laura: because americans are too stupid to understand. >> i'm sorry you feel that way, laura. i'm sure you don't really feel that way but you keep repeating that you think that americans are too stupid. i don't know why you would repeat that. >> laura: hillary called on