what would they see? is it every other street or block? how would you describe it to somebody who hasn't been there? >> it's just like a mass destruction like a bomb went off. when you see these fema guys and first responders that have dealt with a lot of fires come down the hill and look like -- they said they haven't seen anything like this with a fire. fire, like everything else in life is random. there will be a whole court of houses gone and one standing for no real reason. a couple businesses up and the rest are wiped out. the high school has every residence around them wiped out but not the whole school. the behavior of the fire was shocking. this is a small town. most of those people lived there their whole life. it is so tragic and we're -- i think we've gone past the total shock and now it's setting in