they should really suffer the ultimate price. they should pay the ultimate price. i've felt that way for a long time. some people disagree with me. i can't imagine why, but this has to stop. so we're going to have a statement at our stop with the young farmers. >> mr. president towards the beginning of your presidency, met with the n.r.a. you said maybe you're the president who could help solve that, do you see this as a possibility? >> it's a case, again, nobody knows exactly what took place yet. but this is a case where if they had an armed guard inside, that they might have been able to stop him immediately. so, this would be a case for, if there was an armed guard inside the temple, they would have been able to stop him, maybe there would i have been nobody killed except for him, frankly. very, very difficult situation and when you look at it, when you look at it two ways.