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practice would have been to have done george soros yesterday -- >> monday. >> jessica: on monday, and then wait. then carry this on. whether that might lead us to believe this is someone doing some sort of copycat-type-thing. and the george soros incident was isolated. he's very lucky his mail gets clicked outside his compound so it doesn't get inside there or anywhere close to his house. >> harris: pete, i wanted to ask about actual device per the term pipe bomb is very general term. we don't know the details of the device they drove out of cnn earlier. based on your experience, can you give a little bit more detail about what that could been done i can mean question my people think about pipe bombs are ieds, it can be very serious. >> pete: they can be sophisticated or rudimentary. they can be large, they can be very small. it all depends on the type of explosive. are there nails close to market their buckshot in there? how badly is this person trying to injure or maim? the size of it is not going to cause structural damage, say,

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