the research shows lower wages at the bottom end of the market. it's hard to make the case that we're gonna let in more unskilled people. closing those loop holes and enforcing our laws is our best option. >> so you sound like you're in favor of pretty much closing up that border. we don't need any more people. we do have a lot of jobs in the united states that people don't want to do. there are unskilled jobs here that are left open. >> right. employers argue that. it's harder to find that in the government data. right now we have a lot of people who don't have education beyond high school that are out of the labor market. real wages for workers with a high school degree or less are 10% to 20% lower now than they were three decades ago. i guess for my skepticism, let