and now what might be said behind closed doors, where does that take us? >> one of the things the public should understand, from my years of investigating, is when you get down to it, a line of attorneys working somewhere at the department of justice, these are people who work for the executive branch. they are accountable to senate confirmed individuals such as rod rosenstein and for that matter jeff sessions. when you think about how john kelly got the title chief of staff, rod rosenstein is a staff employee of the president. he works specifically for the president, as does the attorney general. these individuals as staff of the president have to be accountable for what they do on behalf of the president and certainly what they do on behalf of the american people. when rod rosenstein doesn't come voluntarily in the ordinary course of an inquiry where we have conflicting statements, he flies in the face of two things.