quick. on the ken starr investigation, if you read a bob ordway's book, bob woodward resented him as a most moderate fair-minded toward the clintons of all the people in starr's investigation. he's the one that said it is not our job to convict bill clinton, it is only our job to give facts in the congress. he was wise beyond his years and he was not a partisan attack do dog. >> martha: thanks very much, good to have all of you with us tonight. coming up, more reaction to the confirmation of justice brett kavanaugh this evening with guy benson and marie harf. >> the senate information process was contentious and emotional. the process is over. my focus now is to be the best justice i can be.