out for the nomination of the supreme court. then have you these protesters that you see very toxic atmosphere. it appears that this new yorker article that was talked about over the last 24 hours might be unraveling it may very welcome down to thursday. i think both witnesses have every right to be heard. we will see what happens. it's just unfortunate that the nomination has been mired in this type of talks toxicity. >> neil: no collaboration of the charges. i'm wondering there i is not much more on the part of dr. ford. nevertheless, she will be able to state her case and maybe that comes through in the back and forth here. where is thursday going? >> thursday is a big day in washington. that's certainly true. it's going to be very difficult for dr. ford or any other accuser to prove the allegations they are bringing against judge kavanaugh, on the flip side