states. >> laura: they are saying everything is chaos. they want to convince people that even though their lives are getting better, it's chaos. it's trump chaos. what can the president do? what can he do to give people a sense that sun train is coming out, and all of them right on your parade, the sun is coming out? >> we talked about this the last time i was on. the president started talking about it. i would do something completely different. i would boldly champion the idea that the president is willing to put rivals in a room -- he agreed with this, he put rivals in a room. he put gary cohn, wilbur ross, bob lighthizer, all these people come and he allowed them to fight it out. i'm not talking about -- >> laura: the voters don't care about gary cohn. >> that's my point. >> laura: how do these people out to vote? >> you talk about the economy -- >> laura: numbers don't get people to vote. >> what does get people to the polls are written they are getting more money in the pocket. >> laura: they want to feel that things are called being