the president is standing up for what he believes. kevin, your thoughts on this. >> as jerry glanville said one time, nfl will stand for "not for long." hean can quote all the numbers d statistics that he wants, the nfl is on triage. i don't know why they're on this self-defeating path. but they're on it. it reminds me on what the democrats are doing in going against donald trump in many ways. >> yeah, here we go. >> here we go. you're exactlycr right. here we go. when you look at what is going on with what donald trump is standing up for, the flag, he's standing up for veterans -- by the way, he's also standing up for police. and when -- i've got a film coming out called "bleeding blue." one of the police in there says, "hey, when something naps your neighborhood, -- happens in your neighborhood are you going to call a cop or collin kaepernick?" he's exactly right. police have to do their jobs. colin kaepernick, whether he likes it or not, he started a trend -- and, laura, i don't