oh, wait a second. donald trump, donald trump, doesn't release tax returns, who won't divest himself from his own companies while he's in office in the white house making money who has all these aids taking trips on public dollars and you want to complain about elizabeth warren? >> dana: he has plenty he can hit her on. >> pam: i think it's a stretch. he's done a lot to create opportunity for a lot of people. jesse, what do you think? >> jesse: she is running. it's a cagey cagey move to rele tax returns now. she has done well for herself, and her husband has done well. almost making a million. she's got some nice properties. i thought it was really smart for her to have the drain the swamp piece of legislation. she wants to ban former members of congress and senators and presidents from becoming lobbyists when they leave office.