wasn't a player of significance? >> president trump: he was a lawyer for me for one of many. they always say the lawyer and they like to add the fixer. i don't know where that term came from. he has been a lawyer for me. didn't do big deals, did small deals. not somebody that was with me that much. they make it sound like i didn't live without him. >> you hear the president's description there cohen pleaded guilty to campaign finance violations which is an interesting thing to plead guilty to, considering there are a great many attorneys, including some i've spoken to here, who don't think that rises to the level. see how that all plays out in sentencing and moving forward. jon, back to you. >> jon: more to come on both of those cases. kevin corke at the white house. >> sandra: another exclusive interview for fox news shan an bream sitting down with one of the jurors in the paul man fort trial and how close the jury