isolation or you can look at it in context, which is what you guys have been saying, that the special counsel has veered way off course from where it originally started in what he was supposed to be looking at. that does nothing to do with russia or collusion, all of the points that everybody's been making, but the reality is, they won 8 out of 18 counts, but remember something, shannon, it is this judge was going to do this on sentencing. sentencing is up to the judge. the sentencing guidelines are advisory, not mandatory. it is going to be interesting to see what judge ellis comes up with the terms of the sentence. all the stuff about 80 years is a little bit silly, overblown, because under the guidelines, you group everything together and do come up with one unified range. >> shannon: still, for manafort, whatever he gets, it will be significant given his age. he is he facing trial in september in d.c. on a slew of charges. this move to cohen. this is a man who was once the president's personal attorney. his so-called fixer, by his own