know why they are kneeling but on june 8th he gave an interview. he said it since there kneeling for criminal justice reform, let me know who has been a recipient of this and i will see if i should pardon them. this is read to for his base. we all know why people are kneeling, but the president -- >> they were vague, the players said they love the military, i'm not trying to get into it i just do something i believe in. i've got to stand for something. if they were more specific, there was a meeting yesterday the president held about prison reform that's an issue that he cares about. it feels like they ought to be able to come together. do you think players would go to the white house and sit down and try to get somewhere on this subject? >> they feel as though the president has continuously attacked people of color. >> martha: what do they want in their protests? >> they want to bring attention to the issue.
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