know, it's about the wall, but it's also about amnesty and the freedom caucus basically shot down a plan for a package that would have funded the wall because it included an amnesty for the people who were brought here illegally. if we think of it as a pejorative word, alleged amnesty, they shut it down because they said they wouldn't go for it. first he got to find something to get out of the house and then it has to get through the senate. this is going to be tough. these are tough tumblers to tur turn. >> if you learn anything from decades of occasional government shutdowns, it's this, the public hates them. they may not say that in advance, but they always do and whatever party gets the blame pays the price. this most recent instance the democrats got the blame. they were the ones making all the noise about it and what happened they backed away almost instantly. >> bret: are poles said most responsible, democrats 32%. >> they backed up immediately.