>> i dream about barden. that's a dream. joe biden ran three times. he never got more than 1%. and president obama took him out of the garbage heap and everyone was shocked that he did. >> shannon: there are a lot of people you know last time around who thought joe biden was very lovable, had longtime democrat record and support anti-could have been a very viable contender. >> history i think will report that hillary rodham clinton was the worst major party nominee in two generations. really catastrophically bad. just in so many different ways, with her base, with persuadable voters, all of these things. go to a different democrat has beaten donald trump? probably. with that democrat have been joe biden? i don't know. joe biden is very popular, well-liked politician, that can change when you run for president, though. oh, i like you, but i don't like you that way.